MIDI Resolution PPQ
MIDI Resolution PPQ
Hello everyone, I am interested on Auria Pro and trying to find out its MIDI resolution PPQ. I downloaded the manual and searched the forum and did not find the information. I appreciate any help! Thanks, -Fled
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Auria's native MIDI resolution is 960,000 PPQN.
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Thanks Rim for the information!Rim wrote:Auria's native MIDI resolution is 960,000 PPQN.
Rim
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Hello,
found this topic during searching info about PPQN in various iOS DAWs.. this number looks strange to me, it is really 960000 or "just" 960 ? That zeros are decimal places or thousands ??
thanks for reply
found this topic during searching info about PPQN in various iOS DAWs.. this number looks strange to me, it is really 960000 or "just" 960 ? That zeros are decimal places or thousands ??
thanks for reply
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No, it's really 960,000. Large PPQN numbers allow for sample accurate MIDI editing.
Rim
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wow !! ok thanks for info
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That may be the native resolution, but when editing a midi note we have to work within 480 ppq. Not complaining, that’s the best ppq of any iOS daw by far!
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Why do you say that AP has to use 480 ppq for its internal note timing? Do you have evidence for this?
It is possible for sequencers to have internal resolution that is higher than standard midi.
It might be lost on exporting as MIDI but it is possible for internal timing to be sample accurate. I haven't personally confirmed that AP does, but I have no reason to doubt RIM.
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Why do you say that AP has to use 480 ppq for its internal note timing? Do you have evidence for this?
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@Espiegel123 - I didn’t say AP uses 480 ppq for internal note timing, what I said was when editing a midi note the grid is 480 ppq. You can see this easily by going to edit mode on a midi track. Turn the grid settings to Off. Expand the edit window so that one quarter of a measure fills the screen. Move a note left or right and you will see the note position marker in the upper left will read from 0 to 119. AP divides each quarter note into four sections of 120 “ticks”, which equals 120 x 4 = 480 ppq in which you can move or edit a midi note.
Why do you say that AP has to use 480 ppq for its internal note timing? Do you have evidence for this?
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@Espiegel123 - I didn’t say AP uses 480 ppq for internal note timing, what I said was when editing a midi note the grid is 480 ppq. You can see this easily by going to edit mode on a midi track. Turn the grid settings to Off. Expand the edit window so that one quarter of a measure fills the screen. Move a note left or right and you will see the note position marker in the upper left will read from 0 to 119. AP divides each quarter note into four sections of 120 “ticks”, which equals 120 x 4 = 480 ppq in which you can move or edit a midi note.
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Why do you say that AP has to use 480 ppq for its internal note timing? Do you have evidence for this?
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@Espiegel123 - I didn’t say AP uses 480 ppq for internal note timing, what I said was when editing a midi note the grid is 480 ppq. You can see this easily by going to edit mode on a midi track. Turn the grid settings to Off. Expand the edit window so that one quarter of a measure fills the screen. Move a note left or right and you will see the note position marker in the upper left will read from 0 to 119. AP divides each quarter note into four sections of 120 “ticks”, which equals 120 x 4 = 480 ppq in which you can move or edit a midi note.
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I just checked and you can move midi notes by a single sample. If you are using bars:beats for the timeline, the the units displayed are in terms of 480 ppq but that isn't the resolution of the timeline. Switch the timeline to use samples as the unit of measure and you will see that you can sample-sized increments.
Note that even when the timeline is set to bar/beat display, if you zoom way in, you will see that you can place notes anywhere. You aren't restricted to the integer increments of the display. I.e. you can place a note between 1.1.000 and 1.1.001
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@Espiegel123 - I didn’t say AP uses 480 ppq for internal note timing, what I said was when editing a midi note the grid is 480 ppq. You can see this easily by going to edit mode on a midi track. Turn the grid settings to Off. Expand the edit window so that one quarter of a measure fills the screen. Move a note left or right and you will see the note position marker in the upper left will read from 0 to 119. AP divides each quarter note into four sections of 120 “ticks”, which equals 120 x 4 = 480 ppq in which you can move or edit a midi note.Espiegel123 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:09 pmWhy do you say that AP has to use 480 ppq for its internal note timing? Do you have evidence for this?
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I just checked and you can move midi notes by a single sample. If you are using bars:beats for the timeline, the the units displayed are in terms of 480 ppq but that isn't the resolution of the timeline. Switch the timeline to use samples as the unit of measure and you will see that you can sample-sized increments.
Note that even when the timeline is set to bar/beat display, if you zoom way in, you will see that you can place notes anywhere. You aren't restricted to the integer increments of the display. I.e. you can place a note between 1.1.000 and 1.1.001
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I just switched the transport display to samples and everything you stated is 100% correct. But in my opinion, this isn’t very useful. Even though you can zoom in on bar/beat mode and move the note between 000 and 001, not knowing exactly where the note is placed would make it possible to duplicate the same edit on another track. So for me, if I can’t see where exactly I’m placing a note, then I won’t edit beyond the 480 ppq display grid. Just my opinion.
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Re: MIDI Resolution PPQ
I just checked and you can move midi notes by a single sample. If you are using bars:beats for the timeline, the the units displayed are in terms of 480 ppq but that isn't the resolution of the timeline. Switch the timeline to use samples as the unit of measure and you will see that you can sample-sized increments.Ciro824 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:10 pm@Espiegel123 - I didn’t say AP uses 480 ppq for internal note timing, what I said was when editing a midi note the grid is 480 ppq. You can see this easily by going to edit mode on a midi track. Turn the grid settings to Off. Expand the edit window so that one quarter of a measure fills the screen. Move a note left or right and you will see the note position marker in the upper left will read from 0 to 119. AP divides each quarter note into four sections of 120 “ticks”, which equals 120 x 4 = 480 ppq in which you can move or edit a midi note.Espiegel123 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:09 pmWhy do you say that AP has to use 480 ppq for its internal note timing? Do you have evidence for this?
Note that even when the timeline is set to bar/beat display, if you zoom way in, you will see that you can place notes anywhere. You aren't restricted to the integer increments of the display. I.e. you can place a note between 1.1.000 and 1.1.001
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I just switched the transport display to samples and everything you stated is 100% correct. But in my opinion, this isn’t very useful. Even though you can zoom in on bar/beat mode and move the note between 000 and 001, not knowing exactly where the note is placed would make it possible to duplicate the same edit on another track. So for me, if I can’t see where exactly I’m placing a note, then I won’t edit beyond the 480 ppq display grid. Just my opinion.
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But the question was whether Auria Pro restricts you to a 480 ppq grid. It clearly doesn't. It just isn't true that "but when editing a midi note we have to work within 480 ppq". You aren't restricted to 480 ppq. You might not personally find that useful but that is a different question from whether you have to work within 480 ppq.
If you are trying to line up MIDI notes with non-quantized audio, this is super useful -- whether or note you have gridlines with finer resolution. I make use of that reasonably frequently.
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