Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

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Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by rsn » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:30 pm

Hi,

I'm using iConnectMIDI4. Any patch selection above Bank 1 does not work.
Steps to re-create the issue:
1 - Create new project
2 - Create new MIDI track
3. Select FX
4 - Under "Parameters" group, Set Bank = 2
5 - Under "Parameters" group, Set Patch = 10

Problem:
Bank is set to Bank 1, it does not stay at Bank 2 which I selected in step 3.

Thanks,
Ruben

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by Rim » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:34 pm

Thanks. This has already been fixed in 2.01, which should be out sometime in the next day or so.

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by rsn » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:36 pm

Thank you

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by Rim » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:47 pm

The update is already available

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by rsn » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:06 pm

Thank you, UI now works but Patch changes are still not working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OImvr4_Q8LU

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by Rim » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:35 pm

Thanks for the detailed video! This will really help me fix this issue.

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by rsn » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:04 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the fix!

I had to set my external keyboard to receive bank changes using "Bank Select 0".

If an external keyboard or module is set to receive bank changes using "Bank Select 0/32" the bank/patch dropdowns in Auria will not work.

For imported midi files I had to switch my keyboard back to receive bank changes using "Bank Select 0/32".

The only way I was able to get the "Bank Select 0/32" working in Auria was by using Midi Flow, I had to
- Create a Virtual Midi port
- Point Auria Pro to the virtual midi port
- Point the virtual midi port to my external keyboard.

Regards,
Ruben

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by Rim » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:13 pm

I don't understand what you mean. What's the definition of "0/32" or "0". I don't follow what you mean...

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by rsn » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:46 pm

Some synths require only the CC0 + Program Change to call up a patch on the synth.
i.e. Select Bank 6, Patch 11.

Code: Select all

Type          Data 1        Data 2
Controller    CC0           5
Pgm Change    10
You can have up to 128 banks and each bank can have 128 patches.
With this approach you can address up to 128 * 128 = 16,384 patches.

Other synths require CC0 and CC32 + the Program Change to call up a patch.
i.e. Select Bank 6, Patch 11.

Code: Select all

Type          Data 1        Data 2
Controller    CC0           0
Controller    CC32          5
Pgm Change    10
You can have 128 banks (CC0) * 128 (CC32) = 16,386 banks, each bank can have 128 patches.
With this approach you can address up to 128*128*128 = 2,097,152 patches.

See http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pd ... s_0707.pdf (Pg 4)
Roland uses both CC0/CC32 to access patches in their synths.

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by Rim » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:54 am

OK, I understand. But you can't send both, so Auria picked the most common approach (sending CC0 + program change). Maybe I can make this an option in the settings.

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Re: Brand new Project - Cannot select Bank 2, Patch 10

Post by rsn » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:01 pm

It would be nice if that can be added in a future release.
Certain external sequencers select banks by combining the MSB and LSB into one single MIDI Bank Select message. They do so using the equation (MSB x 128) + LSB.
i.e.
Bank Number 11927 would be translated to
CC0 MSB = 93 (11927 / 128)
CC32 LSB = 23 (11927 mod 128)

Currently Auria only supports up to 128 items in the "Bank" drop down, if user selects bank select method cc0/cc32... something might have to change to let the user enter banks up to 128x128.

Another option is to implement "Instrument Definitions"/"midnam - protools"/"patch list"
Which is a simple text file with the bank/patch = name, then drop downs can be populated with the real bank / patch names.

Thanks,
Ruben

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